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Eboy Member	posted 05-31-2008 07:19 AM "For the past several weeks, Twyman has assembled a group at a soup kitchen in the Petworth neighborhood of Northwest Washington where he volunteers. They have driven to a gas station, locked hands, said a prayer, purchased gas and sung the civil rights anthem 'We Shall Overcome,' with an added verse: 'We'll have lower gas prices.'" http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/30/AR2008053002898.html?hpid=topnews&sid=ST2008053003189 IP: Logged
SPQR Moderator	posted 05-31-2008 10:19 AM More effective than Maxine Waters' threats. IP: Logged
Drakens Member	posted 05-31-2008 06:26 PM Eh, couldn't hurt I suppose. Hopefully this will help more: http://www.bbj.hu/news/news_40014.html quote: n a surprise announcement, the Commodity Futures Trading Commission confirmed that since last December it has been investigating the trading of contracts for future deliveries of oil, commonly called futures contracts. “Although the commission ordinarily conducts enforcement investigations on a confidential basis, the commission is taking the extraordinary step of disclosing this investigation because of today’s unprecedented market conditions,” the statement said. “The specifics of the ongoing investigation remain confidential. All commission enforcement inquiries are focused on ensuring that the markets are properly policed for manipulation and abusive practices.” I'm glad they went public with this investigation. Maybe it will help scare some of the speculators out of the market and start a chain reaction that will bring down the price of oil. Eh, we can hope anyway. IP: Logged
Jeff Norman Moderator	posted 05-31-2008 09:06 PM I recall once seeing a College Football (U.S.) game where there was a player on the sidelines in fervent prayer, assumably for a victory in the game. The camera and the commentators kept returning to him. Don't these people understand how selfish this looks? IP: Logged
Sam Mc Kee Member	posted 05-31-2008 10:46 PM If their prayers are answered, and gas prices drop, will there be Congressional hearings on market manipulation? IP: Logged
LaneH Member	posted 06-01-2008 07:09 AM Maybe it is just me, well, Jeff seems to agree it seems. It is self-indulgent me time to pray/meditate/introspect/whatever - in public. ------------------ lane h. can be reached at laneman@erols.com "Never let your mind remain so open that your brain falls out." IP: Logged
KGB Moderator	posted 06-02-2008 02:53 AM Curiously -- as a religious person -- I agree. I sometimes pray in public but not publicly, if you get what I mean; quietly dropping my head so as not to attract attention, and thinking the prayer. I don't generally pray for victory over another, which seems crass. More often it's that I won't be a jerk or that I won't be a coward. I seem to recall a New Testament quote about praying in one's closet being vastly better than praying on a street corner. IP: Logged
RDoherty Member	posted 06-02-2008 09:01 AM KGB: quote: I seem to recall a New Testament quote about praying in one's closet being vastly better than praying on a street corner. Matthew 6:6 "But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly." When I was in graduate school one of the profs put a paraphrase of the next verse at the top of his essay tests: Speak not in vain repetition as the heathen do, for they think they will be heard for their much speaking. IP: Logged
entropy Member	posted 06-02-2008 12:13 PM Many years ago I attended Baylor, the largest Baptist college in he world. Competitive praying was a major sport. Several guys would sit around in the men's dorm and pray out loud. As I recall whoever was loudest and longest won. Perhaps content and voice counted for something. It made sense since Baylor was training Baptist preachers. I think that I have posted in the past about being a 40 cent per hour lab assistant and trying to teach the crip course Physics 100 to some of these preachers to be. One of my Amarillo/Baylor friends gave the invocation at an AHS reunion.At the luncheon I made a joke about competitive praying. No one understood the joke until they heard his 15 minute prayer. IP: Logged
Sam Mc Kee Member	posted 06-02-2008 05:51 PM It's not just the "praying publicly" thing I think is self-indulgent but the idea of praying for one sports team to defeat another. I can understand praying for one side to win in a conflict with clear moral implication--one might pray for police to successfully defeat hostage-takers or for the Allies to defeat the Nazis--but when we're talking about a sporting event? Gimme a break. Praying for lower gas prices means--at least to me--praying for an abundant supply of petroleum and the means to refine it. Well we have an abundant supply of petroleum but refuse to drill it, and we can build as many refineries as we want but choose instead to make it impossible to build refineries. God is practically shoving cheap gasoline in our collective face, and we're refusing. IP: Logged
entropy Member	posted 06-02-2008 09:56 PM quote: Originally posted by Sam Mc Kee: Praying for lower gas prices means--at least to me--praying for an abundant supply of petroleum and the means to refine it. Well we [b]have an abundant supply of petroleum but refuse to drill it... [/B] A controversial statement. --If there is plenty of oil near the coasts of Maine, Virginia or Oregon why was none of it developed between 1910 and 1980? Was the single well drilled in ANWR in 1985 a dry hole. http://www.theoildrum.com/node/4020#more IP: Logged

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