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SPQR Moderator |
Jacob Sullum discusses an oped piece I missed that suggests we might: quote: IP: Logged |
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Sam Mc Kee Member |
When I was in Africa, it was my opinion that every dime we spent to "help" did vastly more harm than good. The problems there are cultural and have to do with destructive cultural values, but it's politically incorrect to say that. We want to treat Africa like it's a guy who's been hit by a truck and needs a good Samaritan to pick him up and get him some help, but it's a bit more complicated than that. The whole continent is a basket case because they desperately need to change their culture and change their values, but don't tell the liberal "helpers" that. They think only in terms of preserving the existing cultures over there, when the existing cultures are the problem. How I came to think of it was that the liberals see Americans as people worthy of living in a modern industrialized culture and thought of Africans as animals to be relegated to a sort of vast nature preserve. It was considered evil for a foreign corporation to come open a factory there. When I pointed out that the locals would kill to work at such a factory and that the reason for that could only be that those who work at factories enjoy a better standard of living than if they had remained subsistence farmers, I was always told that this is "exploitation" and that they were really better off being subsistence farmers but didn't know it. It was the nature preserve mentality. The liberals thought of the Africans like animals in a zoo: Oh look at the cute subsistence farmers living in their natural habitat--don't let them escape into the industrialized world. IP: Logged |
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LaneH Member |
As far as I understand, South Africa is the only country in africa that makes any productive use of HIV aid that the US sends. The SA HIV program is run by the military, not the goobernmint, so it has other problems, but it is doing something, whereas other african aid is basically shoveling money down a pit. Appeals to authority are not a valid argument, I understand. However, I am 1 degree separated from the people that do the interaction with the african HIV programs. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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SPQR Moderator |
Interestingly observation Lane, as wasn't Mbeki the South African president floating some silly AIDS nonsense a few years ago? IP: Logged |
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LaneH Member |
Ya, Mbeki is a whack-job too. Which is why I suggest that the SA HIV program is somewhat successful, it is not run by the goobernmint. The SA military has MANY problems, but the people in it that are running the HIV program aren't whack jobs. They may have other inefficiency issues, but they do seem to be trying to get something done, in a smart way. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Gunker New Member |
Lane, do you have any references to anti HIV campaigns being run by the military in SA. The information I have is that it is still shambolic due in no small part to Mbeki and his sycophantic health minister, Manto Tshabalala-Msimang who publically shares her master's views on HIV. Unfortunately the few people who are making a difference are doing so in spite of these two. In fact, the deputy health minister was recently fired, officially for attending an aids conference in Spain, unofficially for working with local aids activists in getting anti-retrovirals rolled out. She managed to get great progress while the health minister was recovering from a liver transplant. As soon as Manto T-M was well and back in the office and saw the progress that had been made, the long knives came out IP: Logged |
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entropy Member |
A good source of HIV/AIDS information. http://www.aegis.com/ see also: http://www.fumento.com [This message has been edited by entropy (edited 01-23-2008).] IP: Logged |
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