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billholt
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posted 05-03-2005 10:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for billholt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In the "eSkeptic" newsletter, this morning, Shermer included the following paragraph, which I think is a very nice discussion of a common malfunction of interest.
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In sociology there is problem known as the “co-option” of scholars, particularly by cults and New Age religions, whereby a scholar, in entering a group and spending considerable time with them, publishes a paper or book that is not as objective as he or she perhaps believes. In fact, sociologists Stephen Kent and Theresa Krebs have identified numerous cases of “when scholars know sin” (an article in a 1998 issue of Skeptic magazine), where allegedly nonpartisan, unbiased scholars find themselves the unwitting tools of fringe groups striving for social acceptance and in need of the imprimatur of an academic. The problem is not merely one of exposure. Such groups need mainstream credibility that they can get from the academy. Academics need original research projects that they can get from studying fringe groups. The process involves a feedback loop between scholar and subject, where the more open and sympathetic the scholar appears, the more the subject opens up with honest portrayals of the group. But it is not enough for the scholar to fake a conciliatory attitude. Humans are good at detecting deception. The best way to beat a lie detector is to believe the lie yourself. That way your body will not betray you. (Evolutionary psychologists speculate that there was a deception/deception-detection arms race in human evolutionary history, where we became good at both lying and detecting lies.) Deception becomes self-deception.

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SamTheCat
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posted 05-05-2005 01:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SamTheCat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This immediately reminds me of a wonderful non-fiction piece called The Jet-Propelled Couch, in a collection called The 50-Minute Hour by Richard (?) Lindner. Once upon a time I tried like hell to option it for stage or screen. Same idea, but here an analyst tries to wean a patient (a physicist working on a gov't wartime project) of his fantasy of teleportation to another planet by pretending to believe it-- and gets caught up in the Other World himself.

In another realm of science, Rupert Sheldrake comes to mind.

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Sam Mc Kee
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posted 05-05-2005 10:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sam Mc Kee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This makes me think about Mark Hoffman's explanation of beating lie detector tests and being so easygoing about lying to all the experts and investigators. Hoffman believed his own lies. He knew the facts, of course--he had fabricated the various documents and other things that he forged. But if the experts called them authentic, his thought was "Who am I to disagree?" In his mind it made perfect sense. I'm skeptical of lie detectors--electronic or otherwise--but found this interesting.

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