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 Post subject: Federal court rules FCC has no jurisdiction over Internet
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 Post subject: Re: Federal court rules FCC has no jurisdiction over Internet
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They'll take it over by regulating it as a utility.


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 Post subject: Re: Federal court rules FCC has no jurisdiction over Internet
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And if companies like Comcast hadn't changed their policy of unlimited bandwidth access that they [promised and started choking streams of data they didn't 'like', Net Neutrality wouldn't be at the forefront right now.

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 Post subject: Re: Federal court rules FCC has no jurisdiction over Internet
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I don't have an issue with net neutrality. It's just that if congress ever gets around to legislating it or giving the FCC the authority to regulate it, they will go overboard granting themselves way too much power. Plus there would inevitably be a lot of other junk in the bill having nothing to do with the subject, like say, an overhaul of the student loan system.


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 Post subject: Re: Federal court rules FCC has no jurisdiction over Internet
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Good.

It's Comcast's network and if they're engaging in abusive pricing the solution's a nice, stiff shot of competition not net cops. If anything the FCC's been the parking brake on the speed of technological change and nothing like the guardian of the public resource they purport to be.


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 Post subject: Re: Federal court rules FCC has no jurisdiction over Internet
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arpad wrote:
It's Comcast's network and if they're engaging in abusive pricing the solution's a nice, stiff shot of competition not net cops.


Absolutely. But slowing down selective bits of information is an all around negative; ok, maybe not for them. Data passes through their routers and it affects people that are not Comcast subscribers. Or, are they only choking stuff that originates with their subscribers?

And, no, I do not think that giving the FCC regulatory control is a good thing.

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 Post subject: Re: Federal court rules FCC has no jurisdiction over Internet
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 Post subject: Re: Federal court rules FCC has no jurisdiction over Internet
PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 10:40 am 
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What's especially irritating in this case is that the FCC knows it does not have the statutory authority to regulate this. And proceeded anyway.

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 Post subject: Re: Federal court rules FCC has no jurisdiction over Internet
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LaneH wrote:
arpad wrote:
It's Comcast's network and if they're engaging in abusive pricing the solution's a nice, stiff shot of competition not net cops.


Absolutely. But slowing down selective bits of information is an all around negative; ok, maybe not for them. Data passes through their routers and it affects people that are not Comcast subscribers. Or, are they only choking stuff that originates with their subscribers?

And, no, I do not think that giving the FCC regulatory control is a good thing.


As near as I can determine the beef is that Comcast is applying the limits to their own subscribers. If they interfere with traffic they're handling for peers then they're playing with fire because their peers have the same option.

I'm a Comcast subscriber and I'm getting ready to pull up stakes due to their pricing.

Once competition becomes widely-enough accessible most of these sorts of abusive decisions will be too obviously stupid to consider let alone implement. Unfortunately, that day isn't today and giving the FCC a place at the table might be attractive right now but over time I have faith that the decision would come to be seen as a bad one.


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 Post subject: Re: Federal court rules FCC has no jurisdiction over Internet
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It's back...

What do you think will happen?

With 4K around the corner, I think that companies are going to start pushing their own content over that of 3rd parties such as Hulu, NetFlix, even sites like Anime44.

New competition is not going to spring up, the capital costs are too great. But will Verizon and Comcast (my only two rational choicesss) battle for open bandwidth or just both say F-the-consumer, we can choke out whomever we wish now? Or is that too simplistic?

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